Tick-Tock, Tick-Tock

April 4

"I asked about 15-20 people if the Mac discrimation could be compared to the Holocaust. EVERY SINGLE person was agast and horrified that anyone would even try the comparison. I tried to point out the underlying thought patterns were the same, and they all disagreed and said it was a bunch of bull.- Mr_Bodywave, ADC BBBS.

This is going to be one of the wierder weeks at the ADC, as you may have noticed by the tasteless artwork being showcased on the front door. The irony is that the artwork produced by the ADC is no more tasteless than the ADC's best pal and buddy - David K Every. If the name escapes you, then you've probably missed out on his cyber-intellegenica rag Mackido.com where over a year ago his staff writers believed the ADC on a spam-mission for attention by a mysterious writer named "mgabrys". Well Montgomery Gabrys, sent a terse clarifier that was dismissed outright, and Mackido grew to such heights as to get into a pissing contest with ZDnet and it's real-world application tests with Celeron processors and the snail-free G3 (which lost - causing no small amount of smoke to blow out of DKE's tiny ears). A year later, David K, would find his ass being dismissed from his previous employer of 2 months which was "doing really neat things". The reason for this turn of events is unclear, but his plea for economic assistance is right on the front door of his site - just below the advertising banner that already provides a nice sell-out feel to his magnum opus. I could go on this sequence of events and wonder out loud whether his views on platform bias were to blame (curiously for me - they're an asset), since it was within a mere 3 days that he appeared on the ADC BBBS that he began to draw a parallel between Mac user's and their treatment in the IT world - and, I'm not kidding - the murder of 6+ million Jews in the Nazi Holocaust. He was invited by another writer of Mac prose, Louis G., who has provided many decent and politely worded arguments to the table and has basically kept Wintel enthusiasts on their toes. Louis isn't the only Mac advocate that can hold his zeal in check and provide a great platform for banter - but he's probably one of the most well liked. DKE on the other hand, went right for the jugular. Insulting members, dismissing arguments outright as "the great brainwashed", getting into childish name calling - the works. Mind you - only because this guy had a site, and a collection of writing to his credit was he allowed in. But rather than forward his cause by appealing to the bright spots in the Mac experience, he decided that - from the get-go - everyone else was wrong, no one else was right, and anyone who couldn't make a connection between the genocide of people, and the stumbles of Apple to sell a lump of plastic, was of a lower class of people. These are harsh accusations to be sure - but unlike Mackido - the ADC thrives on providing a peek into the bottemless well of nutty behavior that is the MacJihad and Apple computers through links, and exerpts. You'll find them both here because, quite frankly, I can't make up stuff this sick and twisted. Join us will you? Into the dellusions, the warped sensibilities, and the outright tivialization of the lives of millions of victims who didn't have a choice on the attrocities that befell them in favor of evangelizing a lump of plastic and silicon. Again, if you find fault in his perspectives on life and reality, by all means let him know. After all, complaining to me that this is sick and twisted isn't going to help, because I didn't write such idiocy. I'm just passing it along to you, shrink wrapped and santized for your protection.

April 5
It was the second day of the longest and busiest week in BBBS record because one out of work zelot was let into the boobyhatch. This particular boob was on a roll making accusations of a mass conspiracy against Apple by the IT community - rather than wondering in the slightest why Apple hadn't made anything that the busienss world might want. During one such tirade, a sick concept was made public. I'm in italics:
DavidKEvery Apr 13 1999
10:16PM EDT
> Why does your site post only articles that are 100 percent pro-Mac?
Why does PC Week, PC World, InfoWorld, and about 1,000 other Magazines, Newspapers, Websites, and so on, spew far more one-sided information than what is on my site? A curious position considering that the iMac has received accolades in many of these pubs and Steve Jobs won an award from one of them - where's my award from Mackido? My site's focus is the Mac and explaining things from a Mac perspective. I don't hide that. The facts are that I use Macs and PCs and think the Mac is better for the reasons I express. But I'm honest about it. 99% of the publications that are anti-Mac try to pretend that they are perfectly unbiased. That is crap. Actually any publication of any kind saying an unkind word about Apple or the Mac, rather than throwing mere sophist puppy suck-up prose into the mix exclusively, has found themselves on the wrong side of DKE - but whose going to argue with logic like this?
> Is there any part of your site that mentions weaknesses of any >part of the Mac?
Yes... in quite a few articles I mention the flaws. I certainly don't consider the Mac flawless -- not by any stretch. Go through some of the UI stuff, and I mention a bit. IE: it's ok when HE mentions a fault with Apple - but not others.
> Is there any technically-slanted site not associated with you
>that shares your views?
Most of my opinions are facts. Many places admit to the facts. So many share my views, even if they don't like my tone.
> Why do you not link to any sites in the articles I've seen?
Don't know which section you are reading or talking about. Otherwise known as "duck and cover". I try to link all the time, and the BBBS crowd is no different. DKE - hey don't get me muddled with facts pal, is beyond this simple gesture.
> Do you agree that someone who has much more technical knowledge
>than his audience is ethically bound to present a balanced view?
Yes and no. DUCK! Depends on how they present themselves. Remember my site is a counter balance to the entire media, and every PC advocate and IS-cretin that is preaching their Wintel propeganda with no balance at all. Here we go - dellusion circuts on, warped mindset armed - 3....2....1... This is whining about those nasty little Jews trying to defend themselves in the face of WWII anti-semitism. I would never advocate a policy of excluding PCs. PC magazines will fill themselves with misinformation and support or rationalize that policy. They are not afraid to spread ignorance or falsehoods to achieve that ends (or exclude relevant facts they don't like). But still I am definitely Pro-Mac, and don't hide that. He's hiding from reality, but I'll let him run with it from here But I am pro-Mac because of experience, and explain why. I won't hide from the truth, and admit many of the flaws -- but I balance them, and some hate that. For example: The Macs memory management sucks -- from a programmers point of view. And a user point of view - unless you think daily, or even hourly cold-starts are "just a developer's issue". But the balance is that it isn't THAT bad, and there are many tools that help if you use them. Windows memory management sucks too -- and in some ways is worse (in most not). You really want to get into it, and work on any legacy windows code, and it is worse (model near, far, sorta-over-there, and so on). New stuff isn't that bad -- but you still have tons of uglies in Windows, like DLL's that don't unload and so on. And the truth is that the Macs memory management doesn't look that bad and is being improved. But some don't want to face the truth that THEIR baby is just as ugly -- so they run around pointing fingers, and are the coal calling the dirtblack. Acutally the expression is the pot calling the kettle black, but since this is a chat area - I'm not going to grind his lack metaphoric grasp into the ground.
As you can see, it's really not all that bad, he threw out a sick example to bolster his case on the propoganda wars thing - but it didn't seem like he was actually living or breathing this idea as much as using a bad example to bolster somthing else entirely. At least that's what you would think - until other people asked him to clarify his view on the Holocaust, which is when the hole DKE was digging began to get deep. Very deep and very frightening.

April 6

When many people make a sick argument or point that is so outside the mainstream of good taste, usually they dismiss it at the spur of the moment. Gaffe's and open mike blunders are great for a giggle, but they usually don't go any deeper than misspelling "potato". Sometimes though they can be a keystone for something much worse - so, sometimes it's very revealing to demand an explanation or a clarification. I was one of many that took David up on this, and here's his response to my query. It may seem redundant to be putting in author italics on this post since I'm the one with ">"s around his comments to David, but it illustrates what was going through my mind when I read his reply. It was so moronic that I didn't even pursue it any further because it's one thing to argue with a zelot, it's quite another to have a dialogue with someone displaying signs of clinical insanity:

DavidKEvery
Apr 14 1999 12:24PM EDT
> Forget it Dave, you're emoting a chunk of plastic and an OS with
>a real human tragedy.

No, I'm not. Please don't tell me what I'm saying, especially when you do it poorly. Thanks Dave for the personal attack - did you want to talk about why you think people can be compared with plastic, rather than just dismissing such concerns with a "no I'm not"? I'm relating the similarities in philosophy which allow humans/sub-culture to attack that which is different and try to eliminate it. That's funny I thought people were making a choice to use, or avoid Macs - where this comes into parallel with machine guns and mass graves is a tad perplexing

> To rationalize the comparrison of the deaths of millions of
> people to the possible discontinuation and attitudes to obsolete
>hardware and marketing practices is beyond pompous, it's patently
>offensive, and beyond warped.

To fail to think and understand the similarities between similar actions is beneath reason and is tragic. I guess 6 million people being murdered is an inconvenience in his world if this is "tragic" We are discussing the morality of humans that allows the to try to destroy that which is different. It is a fundamental moral flaw in many human beings, and has lead to many tragedies throughout history. The Mac is a very very minor one -- but the underlying poison is still the issue.

> compare all you want, but once you start dredging up nazi's you
>lose too much ground in rational circles to be considered worthy
>of attention

Yes, I realize that many are close minded -- which goes to my point. Oh so being agast at a blithe comparrason of genocide is being closed minded, and using it is "ok" But I won't ignore the truth just because it is unpopular -- hence the existence of my site.

> worse, you become the focus of the worst sort of attention. The
>attention of millions of familes that have endured a real
>holocost, not a "percieved"one.

If they are too shallow to understand what I'm saying then that is their short coming. I think trying to compare consumer products to mass-murder is a shortcomming - but hey! The other PC (Political Correctness) is not only historically inaccurate, it is also a way to try to shut down communications, and drive people away from learning and discussions through the use of intimidation. I will stand up against that as well. Good for you David, spread your damage to the populace and let everyone know how truely warped the Mac user base has become - I'm sure Apple will make a commercial out of the whole thing, "Think Jewish"?

> Same goes for people who equate the plight of racism with plastic - not
> people.

So having my career destroyed because I am different (a Mac user), versus having it destroyed because I am different (a Jew) is not at all alike? No, one is a career choice, the other is murder without a say in the matter. Dave, you're a fine human being.

Quite frankly the whole thing was offensive on so many levels, I was stunned beyond words. It's taken half a week just to even take a look at such a brazzen and pompous mindset that puts people below machines in such a radical and pathetic manner. Of course I wasn't the only one who had their spine chill several degrees below zero...

April 7

This next message in the thread of the great rock and roll dellusion, was in reply to TheRealCable who also took exception to the Nazi comparrision. Again - no attempt at dodging the sick idea on the surface, but rather a lame attempt to "convince the rest of us" that we were the Nazi's to even question the idea of equating the human race with a pile of silicon. I'm in italics as usual:

DavidKEvery
Apr 14 1999 11:16AM EDT
> "Remember my site is a counter balance to the entire
> media, and every PC advocate and IS-cretin that is
> preaching their Wintel propeganda with no balance at
> all. This is whining about those nasty little Jews trying
> to defend themselves in the face of WWII > anti-semitism. "
>
> To even DARE compare the Mac-Win debate to a era that MURDERED
>millions of
> PEOPLE is horrible and should NOT be done. This is irresponsibility at
> its worst.

No, it is not. Again, that trademark rebuttle dismissing everything the other person just said - you go Dave! Please think a bit about what I'm saying. (I know a lot about the holocaust, and actually have an article on it going up soon). Not enough to know you're sounding like one sick fucking bastard - but that's ok - you're the self-proclaimed expert Dave.There was an antisemetic attitude in and before WWWII that existed in America, Canada, and Europe that allowed for the Holocaust to happen. It was all about eliminating that which is different, "inferior". Jews were just stereotyped by misinformation, considered inferior, then tried to be eliminated. Macs have the same exact platform problems. It isn't about facts, but misinformation. Again - wow - I thought it was about murder, bodies, gas chambers and the lack of the ability of the people to do anything about it - compared to people choosing to use a Mac, at home or at the job that uses them. It is about setting the stage for the final platform solution. Death of a choice is not the same as death of an individual No shit - then why are you comparing the two?-- but the bigotry and philosophy of the attackers can be amazingly similar. You should hear the similarities in rationalizations and even words. It is the exact same human motivations that lead one to eliminate that which is different. So philisophically I meant exactly what I said... That's what scares the hell out of me. and I hope you read enough about the Holocaust and human psychology to understand exactly what I mean. I honestly hope to my grave that I never adopt such a callous attitude to the people around me. I truely do.

> maybe compare two rival football teams and you might have a good
> analogy--but NOT were LIVES are lost and other atrocoties. I refuse to allow
> it.

And I ignore you refusal. No sense giving up now eh Dave? You've either dug a hole that you can't see the bottom of, or you're a sick man - a very sick man. Football teams are not out there trying to eliminate the other football team from existence. I've talked to many PC advocates and IS personell that are about ELIMINATING the Macs. They not only want to eliminate them out of their company, but they want to eliminate them completely. Only in your world Dave, only in your world. "Why won't the Mac users let it die already?". That is not a sports team, that is deep seated platform racism that is usually based on ignorance and intollerance -- EXACTLY like the human failings that lead to many attrocities including the holocaust. Gettin' all this? - he's already offended me beyond words - now I'm just watching him ramble. I'm not kidding. I wish he were. I can take a sick joke better than hearing crap FROM a sick joke. I know that trying to eliminate freedom and choice in a platform, is not the same as doing it with people -- but philisophically the motives and methods are all too similar, and it was not a casual unthought about comment.

Well there you have it, a wonderful human being, whose always right - even when it comes to inviting everyone into his level of sick depravity, pompous arguments, and analogies that read like the victims of a car wreck. What a mess.

April 8

It goes without saying that taking a pompous elitest attitute that excludes even those who are members of the human race didn't exactly go over well with the gang, even those at the BBBS that were Mac advocates. So after a few dozen a day messages knocking this nonsense back and forth - indicative of how much time he had per-day to engross himself in a pissing contest, we finally got the hint that he wasn't exactly prime debate material - or for that matter - a very plesant person to talk to. In many respects, he reminded me as a contemporary version of the unibomber, where a luddite agenda is replaced with tech-worship at the expense at what anything remotely connected with humanity comes second. In a brilliant irony, making flip comparrisons to the Nazis probably brought himself in a position to be compared to them himself. However, speculation and infrences aside, I decline the option to decend to THAT particular level. I'll just make artistic or editorial commentary on such nonsense, not actually engague in them openly. Although I still have my suspicions on such an idea. Anyway after a scant few days of this increadible insight into bad manners and sick prose from an unabashed member of the goose-steppers club, he picked up his toys and decided that he wasn't going to play with "low-life cretins". From his final, "I'm better than humanity" file, David wraps things up with the following exerpt:

"the whole point of "AppleDoomsdayClock" seems to be about a bunch of tirading PC advocates who want to ridicule that which they don't understand. Many are flat out lieing. Most aren't listening or wont concede the truth. This is about one group (the majority) trying to drive out and minimalize every advantage by the other group (the minority) -- then to maximize every perceived flaw, and what isn't bad enough they'll just make up. But this is nothing like racism. Naaah!"-DKE

Well hell what's not to concede? That humans are pithy objects compared to the might of the slighted Macintosh? That Steve Jobs and his creation comes first to the rights and feelings of others, and their family's that have lost more than a consumer product? That the rest of us might either have a shred of dignity or at least a soul? Hard to argue with that. Very hard indeed.

April 9

Now before I dismiss all of the above I think it's time to throw David K. Hitler a bone. After all - perspectives can get pretty bent out of shape when you're out of work and are blaming 99% of the planet for choosing another computer that puts your choice squarely outside of the limelight. But the funny thing is, David has a choice - not many people who found themselves on the wrong end of a door to a gas chamber seemed to feel that they had a choice. In another tasteless display, David even seemed to put down that entire concept. Without getting into the live and direct - it's the moron show, you can find in the BBBS where he slams people who he believe can choose their sex - regardless of chomosomes, religion - regardless of baptism or being partitioned into a "race" by others. He did avoid the color of one's skin but I suppose if I'd asked him about that - he would have made an argument about Michael Jackson, or something as tacky. I'm tempted to actually dig back into the message archieves and show that I'm not kidding in the slightest on this, but after showing at least 3 examples of where Dave's heads at, I think anything more is repetitive and serves only to torture the reader - rather than provide any larger insight into the perspective that is DKE.

April 10

Running this week into the ground, or at least providing some closure to this exercise into the mind of the MacJihad, it has been noted briefly that this isn't just an expose into the warped mind of David K Every. It's also an introduction - or forward to something that he's planning to unleash at Mackido - since he's the expert on the holocaust after all. No kidding - he's now convinced that he's onto something and will undoubtedly set back MacEvangelism to the point that the whole deal will be unsalvageable. It's one thing to be in a log cabin making crude explosives, it's another to actually have a readership that could actually sympathise with you. Before you think this impossible - not naming names - but at least 2 BBBS members agreed with these opinions, or at least sympathised with them until I came up with a reactionary graphic that at least dramatized the absurdity of it all. I'm still unconvinced that these people actually get the seriousness of it all, but at least they've been exposed into a set of double standards that they were walking into. I'm not really on any mission myself - because unlike DKE or Mackido - the ADC exists as a writing exercise for a hobby first, a biased news-source second, and a looking glass into the relm of nutty behavior that is the MacJihad. Whether you give a rats ass, isn't important because I wouldn't pull a snob-move and consider you unable to fathom my greatness, but rather I would think you probably have something better to do. Me, I've been away for a while having time celebrating a host of good news and endevours with friends and family. I feel that someone out there is isolating himself off from the world, and is pouring his emotions into a small box, measuring less than a foot - with a small bluish screen. Probably the saddest and smallest cell one can imprison oneself into. Pitty? No, just genuine sorrow that someone could devalue people at the expense of a box with a logo on it. Dear me, how sad.